Lost After Dark is an upcoming 80s throwback slasher starring Robert Patrick that we are super excited for. Writer, Bo Ransdell and writer/director, Ian Kessner were kind enough to sit down with Modern Horrors and talk, at great and interesting detail, about their new movie and the classics. Also included is maybe the nastiest death that I’ve ever seen.
Modern Horrors – What’s your favorite death (or scene) in a horror film?
Bo: I really like the eyeball gouge from Fulci’s Zombie, or Zombi 2 if you’re a purist. It’s so slow and you know exactly what’s coming and the inevitability of it is really horrifying. The effect itself comes off well, too. Something about that scene has always stuck with me. I’m never sure if Fulci is a genius or a lunatic or some combination of the two, but he excels at death scenes.
Ian: I thought the opening sequence of Ghost Ship was beautiful and horrifying. It was unexpected, creative, and so well executed. Happy Birthday To Me has a whole slew of fun and inventive kills, like the shish kabob, and the barbell, to name a few. And I always loved Scanners, the exploding head scenes are so sweet. I’d also throw in Kevin Bacon getting skewered in Friday The 13th, and Johnny Depp being sucked into his bed in Nightmare On Elm Street. Oh, and the garage kill in Scream was terrific. Did I mention I’m really bad at the pick-a-favorite type questions?
MH – What is a recent slasher or throwback horror movie that you felt “got it right”?
Bo: There’s been an embarrassment of riches lately. I thought the recent Maniac remake was tremendous. That’s a movie that could have gone horribly off-the-rails with its reliance on POV, but it pulled it off. You’re Next really did it for me, too. I thought that was a fun ride and managed to be a little subversive, too. If you’re a horror fan, especially if you’re following Barret and Wingard and West and those guys, there are a ton of in-jokes and nods that make it satisfying. I really enjoy a movie that rewards you for being a genre die-hard. I know with Lost After Dark, there are some not-so-subtle tips of the hat to genre fans that will probably zoom right over the heads of a big part of the audience, but it’s nice to have them in there and see people respond to it. Oh, maybe not as recent as the first two, but Behind the Mask: The Rise of Leslie Vernon is fantastic, too. I know there’s a lot of push to make the sequel, which I would love to see as a fan of the original, but part of me loves the idea of it being this singular little gem. That’s a movie that serves as a sort of secret handshake for horror fans. If you meet someone whose seen it and loved it, you immediately know they’re probably all right.
Ian: That’s another tough question for me, since when it comes to reboots of the classic 70’s and 80’s horror films I always like the originals better. They had an innocence and rawness that I respond too. Does Hostel qualify as a slasher? I really dug that movie. I’m a big Eli Roth fan. I also thought Cabin Fever played like a great retro-style horror about kids partying in the woods. Only it added a contemporary twist on the killer, in that the killer was a virus and the kids had themselves to fear. And speaking of the woods, Cabin in the Woods rocked. Not for the scary quotient, but for its awesomeness. It was such a wildly inventive homage to horror films. Lost After Dark shares that in common in that it was intended to be a sort of love letter to the genre.
MH – Why did you feel the need to bring back the spirit of the 80s? The slashers made during that time weren’t necessarily known as good movies, but fun in hindsight.
Bo: I don’t know that I agree that they weren’t good movies. I remember seeing Friday the 13th: The Final Chapter as a kid and thinking it was pretty great, and I saw it again recently and that movie holds up really well. So does Part Two. And then there’s Halloween and even movies like Slumber Party Massacre, which has this great take on gender politics, that seem to hold up better than you’d expect. The ’80s were sort of the Wild West for horror films, when you had movies like Graduation Day and Nightmare on Elm Street and The Thing all coming out in the same few years and those are completely different kinds of films. There was a sense that these were movies that weren’t always great, but there was an audience that loved them and wanted to go to the movies to take that ride. Maybe it’s my own nostalgia, but I look at those movies as being terribly earnest. So much horror these days is very self-aware and ironic, and that’s fine if you’re dissecting the tropes of a genre, but those tropes existed because they worked and people responded to them. With Lost After Dark, we were just making the movie we wanted to see, you know? There was a spirit of fun in the horror films of the time, and that’s something that a lot of modern films forget about. Audiences want to have a good time, not just be inundated with violin trills and unrelentingly dour experiences. There’s room for those films, and there are some tremendous ones like Martyrs and a lot of that French New Wave work, but I’m really pleased that the most common reaction we hear from audiences after they see Lost After Dark is that they had fun.
IAN: I think this is where we have to agree to disagree. I loved the slasher films of the 80’s! I thought they were fantastic. In fact, I’d argue that the first half of the 80’s were the Golden Age of the slasher film. How many sequels, prequels and remakes have we been subjected to over the last thirty years as Hollywood tries to emulate their success? As for the 80’s the decade, it was just such a great time. The American Dream was still alive and well. People believed in the future. It might have been delusional, but there was a romanticism I just respond too. Things then seemed more black and white. Now they just seem black. There’s a prevailing dark, cynical, know-it-all tone to a lot of the horror films lately. I’d like audiences to experience our film as a really exciting roller coaster ride with thrills and chills and some laughs. The goal was to make a really fun film, and the spirit of the 80’s is a big part of that. I like to think of Lost After Dark as a John Hughes movie gone very, very bad.
MH – The most important thing a horror movie can be these days is “smart.” From what I have read, your movie is a smart movie. Without giving too much away, what sets your film apart?
Bo: Hmm… I don’t know that I’d characterize Lost After Dark as “smart” as much as “aware.” Going into this, Ian and I talked about the fact that we lived in a world where movies like Cabin in the Woods and Scream existed. We wanted to do something with the slasher film, but not repeat the same commentary that other movies had made. And it’s not like we were trying to distinguish ourselves from some indie film. When Scream happened, that was a seismic shift in the slasher subgenre. Everything that came after lived in its shadow for a while. To be honest, our take is very straightforward in terms of the construction of these kinds of films, which is fresh now in its way. Also, the slasher as it was popularized was a product of its time. There’s a very tangible sense of Reagan-era morality in those movies, especially by the time the mid-80s hit and the formula was so concrete. You do drugs, you die. You have sex, you die. You’re a rebel, you die. In writing Lost After Dark, we definitely wanted to address the fact that these morals have shifted and I suppose we’re a bit more nihilistic in the underlying philosophy of the film. I think all that’s there if you’re looking for it, but it also moves like a slasher, so you can enjoy it on a very superficial level, but the things I enjoy most in watching it now, besides some great ad-libbing from Robert Patrick, are the little comments that do allude to this different perspective on who deserves to die.
IAN: Well that’s very kind of you. I hope we did write something “smart”, but that’s for others to judge. I can tell you that wasn’t our overarching intention. We wanted to make a film with heart. It’s great when a movie is intelligently written with clever twists, but at the core of any good film are the characters. Writing and casting believable actors that the audience will care for and root for is very difficult on a low budget. Even harder in a horror film where you have very little time to establish them before you start killing them off. To make matters even more difficult we had eight kids rather than the standard 3-6. It’s extremely gratifying to hear audiences tell me at recent festival premiers that they loved the cast from A-Z. They all have their favorites, but uniformly praise the cast. And everyone agrees Robert Patrick just crushes it! So we’re thrilled about that. Structure-wise, we wanted to package an old wine in a new bottle. So we wrote characters and situations audiences would know as being standard tropes of the genre, but we made them three dimensional — and then we turned the whole formula inside out. I can’t say more than that, but I will say if you want the best time out of our film you should stay away from any reviews with spoiler alerts until after you experience it. Of course we also made sure Lost After Dark delivered on the creative kills we’ve all come to expect from the best of the genre. We might have had a little to much fun dreaming those up.
MH – If you had the choice to write the screenplay/direct the remake of any horror movie, what would be your choice?
Bo: I would love a crack at I Am Legend. They’ve made three attempts to get that movie right and not one is very good. I suppose Last Man on Earth comes the closest, but it’s really hamstrung by budget and is such a product of its time. I Am Legend is one of the best horror novels ever written, and the story lends itself to screen so well, it would be nice to see that movie made with as much of the novel on screen as possible. It’s just one of the best endings put to paper and it’s a real shame that no one has had the inclination or balls to put it on screen.
Ian: I’d be thrilled at a chance to remake the 1973 film The Legend Of Hell House by John Hough. That movie terrified me as a kid when I saw it on TV. I was alone in my house and ran out in the middle and high-tailed it to the park five blocks away where my parents were attending some Canada Day festival. I also want to add that I think it’s funny that both Bo and I chose Richard Matheson stories. Now you can see why we like to work together! If I could adapt any story at all it would have be The Long Walk by Stephen King writing as Richard Bachman. That’s my dream project.
MH – Should Lost After Dark be a success and be universally well received. In a perfect world, what’s the next project for you guys?
Bo: There are a a couple of things in the hopper, some of which we can’t really talk about because of the early development stages. We’ve talked about a really insane sequel to Lost After Dark I’d love to do that wouldn’t be just a retread of the original or a cash-grab. It would be really bananas in a great way. There’s a remake we’ve talked about and the script for that is all done and I’m very happy with it, so I have hopes that will get some movement. There’s a horror-western that we have in the works that I love. It’s sort of a take on the Man with No Name films, but with a very supernatural twist. In a perfect world, we just get to keep doing it. Making movies is like sex and pizza – even when it’s bad, it’s pretty good. Putting Lost After Dark out there and getting it in front of people took a lot of work and a lot of faith and would never have happened without Ian pushing as hard as he did and sticking to his guns, but the rush of having people see the movie and enjoy it is completely worth it. It’s greedy, but I almost don’t care what the next thing is, because it will be all of that – the hard work and frustrations and pushing – but then you have this movie that you can show people and see them laugh and scream and that sensation is indescribably satisfying.
Ian: I sincerely hope that’s the case. We both love making movies and have so many projects we want to see get made. There’s the remake Bo mentioned, which is actually a really cool reboot of the 80’s franchise Waxwork. Then there’s a script we’re just finishing up that’s more of a supernatural action-adventure set at a light house during the turn of the century. I’m also really pumped up for the supernatural Western which Bo brought up, and of course a potential Lost After Dark sequel would rock. I’m stoked to get going on that now that we’ve seen the incredibly positive early responses to the movie. I’d also be open to a pre-financed film that’s looking for a rewrite and a director. Indie filmmaking is incredibly hard and finding financing is a bitch. So that wouldn’t be the worst situation for us to walk into either. You should also know that the genesis of Lost After Dark started with Bo, and it was his first draft that hooked me and motivated me to make the movie. Thankfully our producer Eric Gozlan and Goldrush Entertainment let me call the creative shots, and gave us the opportunity to tell the story we wanted to. I just hope we have the same creative freedom on the next one!
Thank you to the boys of Lost After Dark for giving us some delicious insight into what it takes to be a true horror fan and becoming part of that world yourself . Lost After Dark is currently finalizing distribution talks and will be released within the coming months. CHECK IT OUT.